Here is the abstract and part of the introduction (giving examples of system breakdowns) of a fascinating and approachable analysis by Moran et al. Motivated readers can obtain a PDF of the article from me.
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Here is the abstract and part of the introduction (giving examples of system breakdowns) of a fascinating and approachable analysis by Moran et al. Motivated readers can obtain a PDF of the article from me.
In the post just before this one, I described a co-authorship with Chat GPT-4o that majorly diminished my sense of agency or 'psychological ownership' with respect to the product generated. So stumbling upon Erik Hermann's brief article in Trends in Cognitive Sciences was especially timely The link gives partial contents and motivated readers can obtain a PDF of the entire article from me. Here is the abstract:
Generative artificial intelligence (GenAI) reshapes and challenges psychological ownership of created content. This article examines how GenAI disrupts original content creators’ and GenAI users’ sense of ownership and control and illustrates how both can perceive the illusion, dilution, and potential loss of control and ownership of content in the GenAI era.
My following exchange with Chat GPT 4o - in which it responds to some of my idea fragments - convinces me that AI's current power to integrate and expand on concepts expressed in language (see Ezra Klein/Ben Buchanan discussion), is superior to mine.
Here is the exchange:
prompt:
I’m curious to see how you might respond to reading the following notes on testing different topic ideas to write about and develop. The issue is not one of whether the ideas are novel, but whether I might devise, with your help, a different permutation, perspective, or take on them that I (and others) might find useful. Can you can suggest some elaboration or further development of the ideas I put forward.
Here are the notes:
First Possible Title: The interoceptive self as a basis for actions, thoughts and feelings.
Subtitle: Moving the self’s experienced center of gravity from “I” to “it”
It is a question of who and/or what is running the show
Which brings it back to the old upstairs/downstairs chicken or egg circular causality issue.
So, ‘it all depends’ (cf Sapolsky’s massive tome)
And, there is no ‘there’ in terms of understanding, that isn’t in my 1999 “The Biology of Mind” book.
Second Possible Title: Defining a smaller self world as a human animal’s refuge in troubled times.
Our predecessors were small mouse like creatures that survived the asteroid collision of ~66 million years ago by burrowing into small protective cracks and burrows. I wonder about robustly engaging this strategy, being one of the peasants or ‘sheeple’ challenged by the rapid disintegration of the geopolitical world order of the past 50 years
And then what? How to rebuild a new world?… perhaps Venkatest Rao’s cozy world, rising from the ooze of the permaweird, protocols, etc.
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Chat GPT4o response:
Here are some possible elaborations and angles for further development based on your notes:
First Topic: The Interoceptive Self as a Basis for Actions, Thoughts, and Feelings
Possible Directions for Expansion:
1. Interoception and Predictive Processing:
• You could frame this in terms of predictive coding—the interoceptive self as a key regulator of allostasis, with the “I” being an after-the-fact interpreter rather than the initiator of action.
• This links to Karl Friston’s free energy principle and the idea that the brain’s core function is to minimize surprise by aligning perception and action with internal models.
• Is the self just a set of homeostatic priors? How much of our identity is actually metabolic regulation?
2. The “Upstairs/Downstairs” and Circular Causality Question:
• You gesture toward the chicken-or-egg problem of cognition and embodiment—how does top-down (cortical, conceptual) control interact with bottom-up (visceral, bodily) influences?
• You might compare this with Antonio Damasio’s somatic marker hypothesis—how feelings from the body guide decision-making and consciousness.
• A more radical view: If we shift our experiential center of gravity from the ego (“I”) to the body (“it”), does that dissolve the sense of agency, or merely relocate it?
3. The “It All Depends” Angle:
• Sapolsky’s argument in Determined—that free will is an illusion—suggests that our decisions are just the end points of countless upstream factors.
• What would it mean to fully internalize this view? Could shifting to an interoceptive perspective lead to more compassion (for self and others), knowing that everyone is just the result of their bodily and environmental history?
4. Revisiting Your 1999 Work:
• You say there’s no fundamental new “there” that wasn’t already in The Biology of Mind—but could there be a different permutation of those ideas given what we now know about AI, embodiment, and neuroscience?
• GPT models, for example, are purely linguistic and lack interoception—does that mean their “self” (if it exists) is more like the disembodied, narrativized “I” rather than the deeply felt “it” of an embodied being?
• Could this suggest that human cognition has two competing modes—one interoceptive (visceral, allostatic) and one linguistic (disembodied, constructed)? How does that play into contemporary discourse about AI vs. human intelligence?
Second Topic: The Smaller Self-World as Refuge
Possible Directions for Expansion:
1. Burrowing as a Cognitive and Evolutionary Strategy:
• You link burrowing (a survival strategy of early mammals) with psychological retreat in times of upheaval.
• Could there be a deep homology here? Is the impulse to withdraw during sociopolitical chaos an evolved adaptive strategy rather than mere escapism?
• Compare this with polyvagal theory: when the nervous system perceives an existential threat, it often defaults to withdrawal (dorsal vagal shutdown).
• Is “smallness” an active form of resilience rather than a passive retreat? How does it contrast with the “fight-or-flight” reaction?
2. The “Peasant/Sheeple” Perspective as an Adaptive Move:
• What if being a non-agent in the grand geopolitical sense is actually the smartest move?
• History shows that major collapses often result in a power vacuum where “survivor types” do best (e.g., early medieval monastic communities).
• Is there wisdom in choosing obscurity, in minimizing cognitive and social complexity as a survival mechanism?
• This is in direct contrast to the idea that survival means becoming a power player—what if the real strategy is to go unnoticed?
3. The Cozy Web / Permaweird / Protocols Angle:
• Venkat Rao’s cozy web—small, decentralized, high-trust networks—is a modern analog of burrowing.
• What does it take to build a world that is small, resilient, and human-centric, rather than grandiose and world-dominating?
• Perhaps we are seeing a return to guilds, communes, and localism, as opposed to large-scale, hierarchical structures.
• How does this contrast with the Silicon Valley vision of the future (AI, techno-feudalism, etc.)? Is the small-world strategy actually a hack for surviving that future?
Potential Synthesis of These Two Topics
• What if the interoceptive self and the small-world refuge are actually two versions of the same thing?
• The felt sense of self (interoception) is a form of burrowing inward, just as the social/cultural burrow is an external retreat.
• Could there be a philosophy of strategic smallness? A model of resilience that prioritizes minimalism, adaptation, and self-regulation over dominance and grandiosity?
• Instead of the heroic self (large, expansive, outward-focused), what would it mean to embrace the burrowed self—the adaptive, responsive, deeply embodied being?
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Would love to hear your thoughts—do any of these directions resonate with what you’re aiming to explore?
Yet another clip from my personal journal...
While going through items selected from my multiple input streams for more careful attention I frequently feel a growing sense of emptiness. Finally this makes me stop to re-discover, yet again, that I have begun slowly dialing up impatience and speed, driven by the unnecessary felt obligation to restrict attention only to potential shinny objects that I might show to others, to maintain a façade of being performative, The antidote is to let go of this, and let it be OK to just enjoy things for their own sake, letting happen the moments of "I-it"innate curiosity that trigger the precious motivational brain dopamine spikes signalling the anticipation of novelty.
A brief review by Rachel Nuwer in the Scientific American points to an article by Zheng and Meister with the title of this post (motivated readers can obtain a PDF of the article from me).
I pass on an initial clip from Nuwer's review and then the abstract of the Zheng and Meister paper:
PEOPLE OFTEN FEEL that their inner thoughts and feelings are much richer than what they are capable of expressing in real time. Entrepreneur Elon Musk is so bothered by what he calls this “bandwidth problem,” in fact, that one of his long-term goals is to create an interface that lets the human brain communicate directly with a computer, unencumbered by the slow speed of speaking or writing.
If Musk succeeded, he would probably be disappointed. According to recent research by Zheng and Meister published in Neuron, human beings remember, make decisions and imagine things at a fixed, excruciatingly slow speed of about 10 bits per second. In contrast, human sensory systems gather data at about one billion bits per second.
This biological paradox, highlighted in the new study, probably contributes to the false feeling that our mind can engage in seemingly infinite thoughts simultaneously—a phenomenon the researchers deem “the Musk illusion.”
The Zheng and Meister astract:
This article is about the neural conundrum behind the slowness of human behavior. The information throughput of a human being is about 10 bits/s . In comparison, our sensory systems gather data at ∼109 bits/s. The stark contrast between these numbers remains unexplained and touches on fundamental aspects of brain function: what neural substrate sets this speed limit on the pace of our existence? Why does the brain need billions of neurons to process 10 bits/s? Why can we only think about one thing at a time? The brain seems to operate in two distinct modes: the “outer” brain handles fast high-dimensional sensory and motor signals, whereas the “inner” brain processes the reduced few bits needed to control behavior. Plausible explanations exist for the large neuron numbers in the outer brain, but not for the inner brain, and we propose new research directions to remedy this.
Another chunk from my personal journal:
"I" am a complex prediction machine, with fingers now typing on a computing machine that can generate words. Nerves, muscles, and energy fluxes in and out. Cooperating with similar machines to make larger ensembles more effective at survival and replication. Generating a word cloud stored in higher brain areas to fabricate the value, purpose, and meaning myths that sometimes strengthen and sometimes diminish the downstairs animal presence generating them.
Our body arousal is controlled by very ancient nerve centers deep inside our brains. I am quite clear that for myself and many others these areas have ramped up their activity in response to the political uncertainty surrounding us. I would like to understand and regulate this arousal in myself more effectively. Thus I have been fascinated by the article by Sabat et al. in the Feb. 3 issue of PNAS that uses uses natural language processing tools to define the 7 chief varieties of arousal, and then runs meta-analyses of the brain imaging literature to reveal that all varieties of arousal converge onto a cortical network composed of the presupplementary motor area and the left and right dorsal anterior insula.
This suggests that biofeedback or meditation techniques that reduce activity in these brain areas might be useful in allowing us to face adversity without unnecessary levels of arousal. In this vein, the same issue of PNAS has an article by Maher et al. demonstrating the potential of using loving-kindness meditation (by novice meditators) to induce neural changes in beta and gamma activity in the amygdala and hippocampus - areas associated with emotional regulation and mood disorders.
Below, I pass on the abstracts of these two articles:
The Sabat et al. article has the title "Evidence for domain-general arousal from semantic and neuroimaging meta-analyses reconciles opposing views on arousal" :
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The Maher et al. article has the title: "Intracranial substrates of meditation-induced neuromodulation in the amygdala and hippocampus"
Interesting work from Rownrow and Krupenye (open source):
Numerous uniquely human phenomena, from teaching to our most complex forms of cooperation, depend on our ability to tailor our communication to the knowledge and ignorance states of our social partners. Despite four decades of research into the “theory of mind” capacities of nonhuman primates, there remains no evidence that primates can communicate on the basis of their mental state attributions, to enable feats of coordination. Moreover, recent reevaluation of the experimental literature has questioned whether primates can represent others’ ignorance at all. The present preregistered study investigated whether bonobos are capable of attributing knowledge or ignorance about the location of a hidden food reward to a cooperative human partner, and utilizing this attribution to modify their communicative behavior in the service of coordination. Bonobos could receive a reward that they had watched being hidden under one of several cups, if their human partner could locate the reward. If bonobos can represent a partner’s ignorance and are motivated to communicate based on this mental state attribution, they should point more frequently, and more quickly, to the hidden food’s location when their partner is ignorant about that location than when he is knowledgeable. Bonobos indeed flexibly adapted the frequency and speed of their communication to their partner’s mental state. These findings suggest that apes can represent (and act on) others’ ignorance in some form, strategically and appropriately communicating to effectively coordinate with an ignorant partner and change his behavior.
I have received a draft of an upcoming paper in Behavioral and Brain Sciences by Coombs and Trestman titled "A Multi-Trait Embodied Framework for the Evolution of Brains and Cognition across Animal Phyla " It has a nice graphic indicating different brain regions whose functionalities are common to humans and phylogenetically different animals with complex brains (crows, octopuses and honeybees). Motivated readers can obtain a PDF of the article from me. Here is the abstract :
Among non-human animals, crows, octopuses and honeybees are well-known for their complex brains and cognitive abilities. Widening the lens from the idiosyncratic abilities of exemplars like these to those of animals across the phylogenetic spectrum begins to reveal the ancient evolutionary process by which complex brains and cognition first arose in different lineages. The distribution of 35 phenotypic traits in 17 metazoan lineages reveals that brain and cognitive complexity in only three lineages (vertebrates, cephalopod mollusks, and euarthropods) can be attributed to the pivotal role played by body, sensory, brain and motor traits in active visual sensing and visuomotor skills. Together, these pivotal traits enabled animals to transition from largely reactive to more proactive behaviors, and from slow and two-dimensional motion to more rapid and complex three-dimensional motion. Among pivotal traits, high-resolution eyes and laminated visual regions of the brain stand out because they increased the processing demands on and the computational power of the brain by several orders of magnitude. The independent acquisition of pivotal traits in cognitively complex (CC) lineages can be explained as the completion of several multi-trait transitions over the course of evolutionary history, each resulting in an increasing level of complexity that arises from a distinct combination of traits. Whereas combined pivotal traits represent the highest level of complexity in CC lineages, combined traits at lower levels characterize many non-CC lineages, suggesting that certain body, sensory and brain traits may have been linked (the trait-linkage hypothesis) during the evolution of both CC and non-CC lineages.
Another cryptic clip from my personal journal: .
To make feeling alone (all-one) be a comfortable space, be a courteous guest in one's own strange body and in the presence of the strange bodies of even closest friends, being gently curious about them, realizing that everything "I" think about myself or them is a fantasy construction for predicting what I or they might feel or do next.
A fascinating PNAS article by Tiusty and Libchaber offers 'an oversimplified language of life.’ It is a long article, but I found it a very worthwhile read. (Motivated readers can obtain a PDF of the article from me.) Here I pass on the Significance and Abstract paragraphs, and the first figure.
A fascinating perspective from Conwell et al. (open source). Affectless visual machines explain a majority of variance in human visually evoked affect:
Go to dogegov.com and click on articles in the drop down menu to learn about our new masters.
I hesitate to add to the ongoing flow of negativity in the infosphere, but I will pass on my edited ChatGPT 4o summaries of articles by Venkatesh Rao and Timothy Snyder. I think they describe our situation in appropriately dire terms.
Rao argues that contemporary U.S. politics has shifted from a “culture war” to a “civilizational war,” and suggests that Trump and Musk’s faction has undergone this shift by becoming more disciplined and warlike, while Democrats remain stuck in an outdated, ineffective culture-war mode. Unlike culture wars, which are low-intensity conflicts centered on optics and social skirmishes, civilizational wars resemble historical steppe-nomad conquests—high-tempo, ruthless, and strategically destructive. The piece draws parallels to the 30 Years’ War and Mongol tactics, suggesting that modern “warriors” operate in a decentralized, open-source insurgency mode, using social media as a kind of continuous intoxication (akin to fermented mare’s milk for nomads) to stay engaged and aggressive. The author critiques mainstream political analysis for misunderstanding this shift, misinterpreting legal checks and media discourse as signs of normalcy rather than symptoms of deeper conflict. Ultimately, they suggest this is a negative-sum war that cannot be stopped, only mitigated.
Snyder describes the U.S. ias undergoing an oligarchic coup aimed at dismantling democracy and concentrating power among a wealthy elite. It asserts that the current executive branch rejects the idea of America as a nation governed by its people and instead seeks to create disorder to strengthen its control. The systematic discrediting of government institutions, demonization of federal workers, and elevation of billionaires as heroes have paved the way for this takeover. The destruction is intentional, with no plan to govern—only to create chaos that justifies authoritarian rule. The author likens Trump’s tariffs, attacks on allies, and deportation spectacles to deliberate strategies designed to impoverish, divide, and weaken Americans while enriching a select few. The removal of experienced officials in law enforcement and intelligence, under the guise of ideological purges, aims to eliminate those who could resist lawlessness. The article warns that unless citizens act decisively—through legal challenges, state-level resistance, impeachment efforts, and corporate pushback—the country will descend into an anti-democratic system where oligarchs manipulate markets and power unchecked. The call to action is urgent: people must organize, resist demoralization, and recognize that self-governance requires collective action beyond just voting.
Another cryptic clip from my personal journal:
We are built of predictive fantasies at every level of our being - from single cells up through transient professional identities that seamlessly feedback down into and vitalize the physical body and nervous system that sustains them. We make each identity for ourselves by inferring what models are being performed by others, hopefully not doing total mimesis of one style, but rather cutting and pasting to come up with our own ‘unique’ personas.
I pass on the abstract of a draft version of a new article by Robin Dunbar that I am reading through. It will appear in Behavioral and Brain Sciences. Motivated readers can obtain a PDF of the article by emailing me.
Group-living creates stresses that, all else equal, naturally lead to group fragmentation, and hence loss of the benefits that group-living provides. How species that live in large stable groups counteract these forces is not well understood. I use comparative data on grooming networks and cognitive abilities in primates to show that living in large, stable groups has involved a series of structural solutions designed to create chains of 'friendship' (friends-of-friends effects), increased investment in bonding behaviours (made possible by dietary adjustments) to ensure that coalitions work effectively, and neuronally expensive cognitive skills of the kind known to underpin social relationships in humans. The first ensures that individuals synchronise their activity cycles; the second allows the stresses created by group-living to be defused; and the third allows a large number of weak ties to be managed. Between them, these create a form of multilevel sociality based on strong versus weak ties similar to that found in human social networks. In primates, these strategies appear successively at quite specific group sizes, suggesting that they are solutions to 'glass ceilings' that would otherwise limit the range of group sizes that animals can live in (and hence the habitats they can occupy). This sequence maps closely onto the grades now known to underpin the Social Brain Hypothesis and the fractal pattern that is known to optimise information flow round networks.
Scanning back through previous MindBlog posts, I came across the following paragraph what I wrote and posted on 7/24/24. I like it, and decided to post it again:
Machinery here, pushing down keys of another machine, generating words, just like a human does. Much simpler than pretending to be one. Just nerves, muscles, and energy fluxes in and out. Curatorial rather than aspirational. Cooperating with other similar machines to make larger ensembles more effective at survival and replication. Generating a word cloud stored in higher brain areas to fabricate the value, purpose, and meaning myths that sometimes strengthen and sometimes diminish the downstairs animal presence generating them.
I pass on links to two articles in the same vein, one by Ezra Klein, the other by Ventkatesh Rao, with Klein noting how we are facing four epoch-changing events, any one of which could utterly change the world we have know for the past 70 years. Both articles cite the writing of the Marxist Italian philosopher Antonio Gramsci, who wrote a well know sentence usually translated as “The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: Now is the time of monsters.” Rao offers the following graphic of the transition:
Klein points to:
1. Authoritarian consolidation across the world and the death of democracies.
2. The poorly understood large language models of AI exponentially approaching problem solving and general intelligence capabilities that may exceed human abilities
3. whose hardware has voracious energy requirements that act against curing the global warming that is irreversibly changing our planet.
4. Population collapse due to lowering birthrates presenting a larger immediate threat to civilization than global warming.
And Rao dissects the fine structures of the interregnum noted by Gramsci's original phrase "...in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear." Rao notes "an interesting idea that a "monster" is an instance of "morbid symptoms" appearings in either or both of the two building blocks of "world" - systems of rules and special people."
I repeat my September 29, 2024 "Tokens of sanity" post with a few edits:
-Being the calm space in which nothing can hurry
-An animal body that can dissociate itself from the word cloud and emotional reactivities of self and other selves.
-A courteous guest in its own body, and when with others, owning its own experience and letting others own theirs.
-Favoring reflectivity over reactivity, caressing novelty
-Clinging to nothing, the current self being a passing fantasy
-Letting each moment be what it is, not what it should be
-A blip in the flow of cosmic time
I pass on this cryptic paragraph from my personal journal:
Everything we experience is coming from inside us - our illusion of having a self, our sense of agency. This includes attributing causal agency to others, as in 'they are making me do this,’ This 'error' allows individuals in a kinship group or tribe who share the same error to form an imaginary 'we' hive mind supporting unified action. The higher metacognitive stance is to participate when necessary in the group illusion while maintaining clarity on the fact that the actual agency is within oneself.